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Morrigan

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

Posts: 1,520

Location: GREECE

41

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 3:38pm

I believe Morrigan means is that Ross is missing to complete the "Battle Hymns" line-up.

Karl is better technically but I think Ross is a better songwriter (not that it matters since Joey is the primary songwriter in Manowar). I have heard the solo albums of both Ross and David Shankle and they are great. I'll wait until I hear something composed by Karl to judge objectivelly his songwriting abilities.


That is what I meant thank you....!!!

And I totally agree with what you say about Karl. :)

R.J.D. (1942 – 2010)

Nothing's free from the rules and laws of morality
Free to take your fill
Free from your own free will
Nothing's free
Nothing's free from your conscience or
Free from the consequence
Free to sin and death
Free till your final breath
Nothing's free

//DarkAvenger\\

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

42

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 4:10pm

I never heard Karl composed anything himself... All is writen by Karl and Joey.
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods
Only one of us will win, And return to fight again
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods

I've sworn an oath in blood to defend the land!
And all who wish to test their steel,
well here I am!

AchiLLeS

ASGARDIAN

Posts: 46

Location: Near to the burning walls of Troy

43

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 5:26pm

I can imagine Manowar with 2 guitars.... Karl Logan + Ross the Boss.

The previus glorius past will mixed with the new sound.

I think this will be perfect!! 8)

theBlak

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Posts: 802

Location: Greece

Occupation: Dark Bassist

44

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 6:14pm

I never heard Karl composed anything himself... All is writen by Karl and Joey.
That is correct. I just said it would be fair to listen to something composed by Karl alone before judging his songwriting abilities. But Ross released a very good album last year so I can say he is a good composer.
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line

RJD
R.I.P.

theBlak

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Posts: 802

Location: Greece

Occupation: Dark Bassist

45

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 6:18pm

I can imagine Manowar with 2 guitars.... Karl Logan + Ross the Boss.

The previus glorius past will mixed with the new sound.

I think this will be perfect!! 8)


I don't know... I always liked the fact that they use one guitar. I think their sound is full and complete without a second guitarist. After all, Joey is filling in for the guitar and the bass at the same time.

It was nice though when they played "Battle Hymn" in 2005 with 3 guitars and 3 drums.
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line

RJD
R.I.P.

Morrigan

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Posts: 1,520

Location: GREECE

46

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 6:22pm

The "New Metal Leader" was decent !

The 2 guitars is an intresting idea!

I would love to see the result!

R.J.D. (1942 – 2010)

Nothing's free from the rules and laws of morality
Free to take your fill
Free from your own free will
Nothing's free
Nothing's free from your conscience or
Free from the consequence
Free to sin and death
Free till your final breath
Nothing's free

AchiLLeS

ASGARDIAN

Posts: 46

Location: Near to the burning walls of Troy

47

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 6:42pm

I can imagine Manowar with 2 guitars.... Karl Logan + Ross the Boss.

The previus glorius past will mixed with the new sound.

I think this will be perfect!! 8)


I don't know... I always liked the fact that they use one guitar. I think their sound is full and complete without a second guitarist. After all, Joey is filling in for the guitar and the bass at the same time.

It was nice though when they played "Battle Hymn" in 2005 with 3 guitars and 3 drums.


i meant that the mixing of the 2 guitarists will be nice.

The song writing of both, plus each other technics in guitar playing.

The result will be ultimate manowar songwriting (past days + new days), plus Joey "chief" :D

theBlak

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Location: Greece

Occupation: Dark Bassist

48

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 6:56pm

Maybe it would be nice to make an album with all past members playing on different songs... Some with Ross some with David some with Karl... And writing some of the music too!
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line

RJD
R.I.P.

Morrigan

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Location: GREECE

49

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 6:59pm

Let them all play and write in all the songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahahahahaha

R.J.D. (1942 – 2010)

Nothing's free from the rules and laws of morality
Free to take your fill
Free from your own free will
Nothing's free
Nothing's free from your conscience or
Free from the consequence
Free to sin and death
Free till your final breath
Nothing's free

//DarkAvenger\\

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

50

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:01pm

It's really interesting what you're discussing about... But I can't imagine Manowar with 2 gitarres... But for me it's also not important who is on drums and who on gitare, it's only important Eric is singing, Joey at bass and Joey composes the songs...

Did you see the earthshake DVD? there are all members of Manowar playing toghether. If you didn't look to, check out!!
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods
Only one of us will win, And return to fight again
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods

I've sworn an oath in blood to defend the land!
And all who wish to test their steel,
well here I am!

Morrigan

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

Posts: 1,520

Location: GREECE

51

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:05pm

No it is not important who plays

But it would be nice if it would happen.

Every person has different ideas and plays different so the result would be different

R.J.D. (1942 – 2010)

Nothing's free from the rules and laws of morality
Free to take your fill
Free from your own free will
Nothing's free
Nothing's free from your conscience or
Free from the consequence
Free to sin and death
Free till your final breath
Nothing's free

theBlak

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

Posts: 802

Location: Greece

Occupation: Dark Bassist

52

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:05pm

It was great seeing them all together. But what you say about who should be in a Manowar album is based I think on the fact that only Eric and Joey are still in the band. If Ross hadn't left in 1988 he would also be considered a part of Manowar as much as the others.
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line

RJD
R.I.P.

//DarkAvenger\\

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

53

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:07pm

You might be right. But I listen more to Eric's voice than to drums and gitares.... Sure it all belongs together and they all have a different style, but it's just not so important for me. I can imagine all Ross fans were sad when he left the band, maybe you thought Manowar ist not really the same than before... I only know them 3 years so I only know the others from CD and Rhino on drums from the last MCM.
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods
Only one of us will win, And return to fight again
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods

I've sworn an oath in blood to defend the land!
And all who wish to test their steel,
well here I am!

theBlak

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

Posts: 802

Location: Greece

Occupation: Dark Bassist

54

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:12pm

Joey is in the band so it is always Manowar don't get me wrong. But I pay attention to the instruments too and I like Donnie's drums better than Scott's. Same with Ross and Karl. Karl is very technical and maybe fits Manowar today but Ross had a very unique style and he helped Manowar become big.
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line

RJD
R.I.P.

Morrigan

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

Posts: 1,520

Location: GREECE

55

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:14pm

It is all the same it doesn't matter what any of us say or think

It only matters what you think

some think that the original line up was the best and you could hear the difference from their CDs others will tell you that David was the best, others that Karl is the best.

It only works if it works for you

R.J.D. (1942 – 2010)

Nothing's free from the rules and laws of morality
Free to take your fill
Free from your own free will
Nothing's free
Nothing's free from your conscience or
Free from the consequence
Free to sin and death
Free till your final breath
Nothing's free

//DarkAvenger\\

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

56

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:21pm

That's exactly what I ment, it's only important what we for ourselfes decide, and we all have different opinions. I suppose we all have different views what we like best at Manowar. I just din't know how to say in english, it's not my first language... I'm still learning on it, and feelings is something I can't talk about at the moment, but I'll learn, every post here helps me to learn new words and descriptions!!!
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods
Only one of us will win, And return to fight again
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods

I've sworn an oath in blood to defend the land!
And all who wish to test their steel,
well here I am!

Morrigan

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

Posts: 1,520

Location: GREECE

57

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:26pm

I am still learning 2 :)

u r good enough

u make your point

R.J.D. (1942 – 2010)

Nothing's free from the rules and laws of morality
Free to take your fill
Free from your own free will
Nothing's free
Nothing's free from your conscience or
Free from the consequence
Free to sin and death
Free till your final breath
Nothing's free

//DarkAvenger\\

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

58

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:28pm

really? thanks :)
For half a year I always needed one of my friends to translate for me if I had some english text...
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods
Only one of us will win, And return to fight again
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods

I've sworn an oath in blood to defend the land!
And all who wish to test their steel,
well here I am!

Morrigan

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

Posts: 1,520

Location: GREECE

59

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:31pm

I have spelling problems I still need someone to corect me

:D

R.J.D. (1942 – 2010)

Nothing's free from the rules and laws of morality
Free to take your fill
Free from your own free will
Nothing's free
Nothing's free from your conscience or
Free from the consequence
Free to sin and death
Free till your final breath
Nothing's free

//DarkAvenger\\

DEFENDER OF ASGARD

60

Wednesday, June 17th 2009, 7:34pm

LOL, I can't talk... I often need a dictionary to look up the words and if I talk to someone it's like "stop, wait a moment, I have to look this word up in a dictionary... Äh, how do I spell it?" But I will learn step by step. At the beginning I had to translate every Manowar song... Now I can listen to them and I understand almost everything, sometimes there is a word I don't know but the sence is clear :)
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods
Only one of us will win, And return to fight again
I am the keeper of the laws, Decided by the gods

I've sworn an oath in blood to defend the land!
And all who wish to test their steel,
well here I am!

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